Promises: Interesante Post en el foro PRO.EN
Publicado: Dom Sep 13, 2009 6:03 pm
En el foro "English.Pro" se estan quejando de que hay muchas promesas en
Xailer que estan muy retrasadas. Aunque eso es cierto tenemos que reconocer
la calidad de Xailer y la profesionalidad del team que compone esta empresa.
Asi que no debemos desesperarnos pues mas tarde o temprano tendremos un
Xailer con todas la nuevas caracteristicas señaladas por Xailer's team.
En lo que no estoy de acuerdo es en lo que dice Rene Flores (ver mas abajo),
que FWH es un producto defectuoso "que no trabaja como es esperado".
Rene entiendo tu desilusion, por el problema que tuviste con AL, pero te
puedo asegurar que despues de haber usado diferentes herramientas xBase, al
cabo de muchos de trabajo, FWH es en este momento una opcion real, seria y
completa para el desarrollo de software.
Me atreveria a apostar que hay cientos de programas desarrollados en
[x]Harbour + FWH en todo el mundo funcionando perfectamente.
Saludos,
George
Dionisis:
There's one thing we should clarify:
We have already a "road map" of the forthcoming features of the Xailer 2.0.
Many of them are already finished but not fully tested yet. Belive me,
they are finished, I've already seen some of them but I'm not allowed to
make public comments (yet) until the Xailer Team tell me that they are
already tested and ready to be released.
The Xailer Team is not as irresponsable as other products, releasing
features that aren't fully tested, or don't work as expected, or don't
work at all, and after that giving excuses to not complete them or
telling people "add this code to see if it works, if not, let us know".
Personally I'd prefer a release with all the features included to be
working as expected than a release full of features half done or not
usables.
The "other" products, as you say, are releasing new classes and fuctions
every month, but are they fully completed, tested and documented ?, I'm
afraid not, Visual xHarbour is not fully stable nor finished and the
visual classes are not documented, FiveWin doesn't have a decent
documentation at all, and every month they release new things that
nobody uses, and when the people tries to use them they simply don't
work as expected, go to their forums and you will see that not body is
using VxHB for production projects and the new features of FW are full
or bugs and are half done.
My two cents.
Regards
Rene Flores
http://www.ciber-tec.com
Divaris escribió:
> Hello Gary
> Bellow are some of promised features for xailer2
> that are not exist yet:
> a.. Data modules
> a.. Enhancements on copy & paste operations from the form editor
> a.. Undo operations on the form editor
> a.. Block operations within the object inspector that affect more than one
> control
> a.. Report generator
> a.. Template forms
> a.. Assistants
> a.. MinGW compiler support
> a.. Support of multiple projects on the IDE
> a.. Native datasource for FireBird
> a.. PDF generation through TCanvas class
> a.. Visual form inheritance
>
> Other xbase products month by month offer new classes and functions, in
> xailer the only real addistion is the ListView conrol. I love Xailer too
> much but promises must become reality.
>
> Best
> Dionisis
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Rogers" <g.s.rogers@att.net> wrote in message
> news:4aaa6d6e$[email=1@svctag-j7w3v3j....]1@svctag-j7w3v3j....[/email]
>> Dionisis,
>>
>> Don't be too hard on them! I think they want to get it right, rather than
>> rush it out...
>> Judging by the product, overall I would have to say that Xailer is the
>> best thing out there for xBase (and I've evaluated alternative for the
>> last 8 years).
>> But that's just me....
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Dionisis Divaris" <info@sgs-soft.gr> wrote in message
>> news:4aaa645a$[email=1@svctag-j7w3v3j....]1@svctag-j7w3v3j....[/email]
>>> Before August we will publish a last release of Xailer 2 Beta which
>>> surely will include the native support of PostgreSQL, and on the first
>>> fortnight of September we will publish the definitive version of Xailer
>>> 2.0.
>>>
>>> AS A SUBJECT
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Dionisis
>>>
Xailer que estan muy retrasadas. Aunque eso es cierto tenemos que reconocer
la calidad de Xailer y la profesionalidad del team que compone esta empresa.
Asi que no debemos desesperarnos pues mas tarde o temprano tendremos un
Xailer con todas la nuevas caracteristicas señaladas por Xailer's team.
En lo que no estoy de acuerdo es en lo que dice Rene Flores (ver mas abajo),
que FWH es un producto defectuoso "que no trabaja como es esperado".
Rene entiendo tu desilusion, por el problema que tuviste con AL, pero te
puedo asegurar que despues de haber usado diferentes herramientas xBase, al
cabo de muchos de trabajo, FWH es en este momento una opcion real, seria y
completa para el desarrollo de software.
Me atreveria a apostar que hay cientos de programas desarrollados en
[x]Harbour + FWH en todo el mundo funcionando perfectamente.
Saludos,
George
Dionisis:
There's one thing we should clarify:
We have already a "road map" of the forthcoming features of the Xailer 2.0.
Many of them are already finished but not fully tested yet. Belive me,
they are finished, I've already seen some of them but I'm not allowed to
make public comments (yet) until the Xailer Team tell me that they are
already tested and ready to be released.
The Xailer Team is not as irresponsable as other products, releasing
features that aren't fully tested, or don't work as expected, or don't
work at all, and after that giving excuses to not complete them or
telling people "add this code to see if it works, if not, let us know".
Personally I'd prefer a release with all the features included to be
working as expected than a release full of features half done or not
usables.
The "other" products, as you say, are releasing new classes and fuctions
every month, but are they fully completed, tested and documented ?, I'm
afraid not, Visual xHarbour is not fully stable nor finished and the
visual classes are not documented, FiveWin doesn't have a decent
documentation at all, and every month they release new things that
nobody uses, and when the people tries to use them they simply don't
work as expected, go to their forums and you will see that not body is
using VxHB for production projects and the new features of FW are full
or bugs and are half done.
My two cents.
Regards
Rene Flores
http://www.ciber-tec.com
Divaris escribió:
> Hello Gary
> Bellow are some of promised features for xailer2
> that are not exist yet:
> a.. Data modules
> a.. Enhancements on copy & paste operations from the form editor
> a.. Undo operations on the form editor
> a.. Block operations within the object inspector that affect more than one
> control
> a.. Report generator
> a.. Template forms
> a.. Assistants
> a.. MinGW compiler support
> a.. Support of multiple projects on the IDE
> a.. Native datasource for FireBird
> a.. PDF generation through TCanvas class
> a.. Visual form inheritance
>
> Other xbase products month by month offer new classes and functions, in
> xailer the only real addistion is the ListView conrol. I love Xailer too
> much but promises must become reality.
>
> Best
> Dionisis
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Rogers" <g.s.rogers@att.net> wrote in message
> news:4aaa6d6e$[email=1@svctag-j7w3v3j....]1@svctag-j7w3v3j....[/email]
>> Dionisis,
>>
>> Don't be too hard on them! I think they want to get it right, rather than
>> rush it out...
>> Judging by the product, overall I would have to say that Xailer is the
>> best thing out there for xBase (and I've evaluated alternative for the
>> last 8 years).
>> But that's just me....
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Dionisis Divaris" <info@sgs-soft.gr> wrote in message
>> news:4aaa645a$[email=1@svctag-j7w3v3j....]1@svctag-j7w3v3j....[/email]
>>> Before August we will publish a last release of Xailer 2 Beta which
>>> surely will include the native support of PostgreSQL, and on the first
>>> fortnight of September we will publish the definitive version of Xailer
>>> 2.0.
>>>
>>> AS A SUBJECT
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Dionisis
>>>